Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/15/1994 08:00 AM House STA

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  HB 368 - REAPPLICATION PERIOD FOR 1993 PF DIVIDEND                           
                                                                               
  Number 433                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY opened HB 368 for discussion.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 441                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GENE THERRIAULT, SPONSOR OF HB 368, referred                  
  to his sponsor statement.  "HB 368 is designed to address a                  
  problem that has come to light regarding 1993 Permanent Fund                 
  Dividend applications that were lost by the U.S. Postal                      
  Service.  In October of 1993 my office was contacted by                      
  numerous constituents regarding loss of their Permanent Fund                 
  Dividend (PFD) applications.  The PFD Division did not have                  
  record of receiving their applications, however the                          
  individuals noted mailing their applications early in                        
  January through the North Pole Post Office.  After looking                   
  into this situation, my staff learned that the Postal                        
  Service had received calls in January 1993 from customers                    
  whose payments had not reached creditors.  These complaints                  
  led to a U.S. Postal Inspection Service investigation which                  
  determined that an apparent loss of mail took place on                       
  January 8, 9, or 11, 1993, affecting residents in the North                  
  Pole area.  A letter documenting the loss was supplied to                    
  customers for the notification of creditors. (on file)                       
                                                                               
  "HB 368 would open a narrow window for PFD applicants by                     
  extending the reapplication period for the 1993 dividend                     
  year from September 1, 1993 to September 1, 1994.  The                       
  applicant would be required to provide a sworn statement                     
  that the application was originally mailed in the postal                     
  area during the time mail from that area was lost.  A sworn                  
  statement from another individual who witnessed the mailing                  
  or signed the residency verification of the original                         
  application before the 1993 deadline, and documentation from                 
  the U.S. Postal Service acknowledging the loss of mail                       
  entered into the mail stream during the 1993 PFD application                 
  period.                                                                      
                                                                               
  "The PFD division currently allows an applicant who timely                   
  filed an application that was not received by the PFD                        
  Division to reapply before September 1 of the dividend year                  
  (15 AAC 23.103(h)).  The Division has traditionally allowed                  
  reapplication, however 1993 was the first year the deadline                  
  was established.  Although PFD applicants receive batch                      
  cards that verify receipt of their application, a number of                  
  individuals did not expect to receive a batch card last year                 
  due to the new direct deposit method of payment and                          
  therefore did not get notice of a problem until in was too                   
  late.                                                                        
                                                                               
  "An extension to this deadline is needed for the 1993                        
  reapplication period due to this loss of mail in the North                   
  Pole Post Office and the new deadline for reapplying for the                 
  dividend.  My staff and I have worked with the PFD Division                  
  within the Department of Revenue to draft the language of HB
  368 to solve this problem without throwing the reapplication                 
  period wide open."                                                           
                                                                               
  HB 368 has a zero fiscal note.  Because of the narrow window                 
  HB 368 provides, the PFD division has stated a neutral                       
  opinion of the bill.                                                         
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY asked why there is a zero fiscal note when an                    
  estimated 30 PFDs would be issued under HB 368.                              
                                                                               
  Number 489                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT corrected the amount of PFDs                       
  issued would be approximately 50-60.  The PFD Division sets                  
  aside an amount of money for people going through the appeal                 
  process.  All of these people have already filed in the                      
  appeal process, but without HB 368, they will likely be                      
  denied.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 500                                                                   
                                                                               
  TOM WILLIAMS, DIRECTOR, PERMANENT FUND DIVISION, DEPARTMENT                  
  OF REVENUE, stated because of the narrow construction of HB
  368, his department has a neutral position.  Because the                     
  people have already filed in the appeal process, the                         
  Division does not expect a significant impact on the                         
  administration, therefore there is a zero fiscal note.                       
                                                                               
  Number 510                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY questioned if the individuals had used the                       
  certified mail service and still failed to meet the                          
  reapplication deadline, would they still be determined                       
  ineligible.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 515                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS reiterated the reapplication deadline is                        
  September 1 and they will have until that date to provide                    
  the required evidence of mailing.  The September 1 deadline                  
  is set so the Division can calculate the number of eligible                  
  applicants by the statutory deadline of October 1.  He                       
  encouraged people to locate their batch receipt cards.                       
                                                                               
  Number 522                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY commented HB 368 is incumbent upon all persons                   
  applying for a PFD to verify prior to September 1 that their                 
  application has been received.                                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT inquired if there had been any past                      
  legislative attempts to address a small group of people for                  
  PFD reapplication.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 530                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS was unaware of any legislation as narrow as HB
  328.  Early in the PFD program, there was a broad based                      
  reapplication period which caused a plethora of problems.                    
                                                                               
  Number 536                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT commented the early problems were                  
  due to notification problems in rural Alaska.  Since then,                   
  the program has not been "opened up."  The U.S. Postal                       
  Service has only documented one loss of mail in the entire                   
  state during the application period.  Proof of loss of mail                  
  is required for HB 368.  Individuals in North Pole and one                   
  individual visiting from Anchorage will be primarily                         
  affected by HB 368.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 548                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked if the reapplication                               
  REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT referred to was conducted through                  
  a statute or by regulation.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 550                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE THERRIAULT believed it was statutory.                         
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS confirmed it was statutory.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 553                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT inquired if HB 368 was not passed, would                 
  there be discretion for those individuals involved in the                    
  appeal process.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 558                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS responded as current statute stands, the 50-60                  
  people would not be eligible for a dividend.  HB 368 would                   
  not be codified, it would be a temporary statute.                            
                                                                               
  Number 562                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY clarified HB 368, if passed, would become part                   
  of the session laws of Alaska.                                               
                                                                               
  (REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG left the meeting at 8:35 a.m.)                        
                                                                               
  Number 567                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT was concerned with the amount of time                    
  taken to discuss HB 368 and wondered if the Department of                    
  Revenue could just take care of it.  He felt, however, if HB
  368 was the only way these individuals could be dealt with                   
  fairly, then he understood.                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY clarified under current statute these                            
  individuals could not receive a dividend.                                    
                                                                               
  MR. WILLIAMS confirmed CHAIR VEZEY.                                          
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT saw HB 368 as the only way to resolve                    
  the unjust situation, therefore, he moved to pass HB 368                     
  from committee with unanimous consent.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 583                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR VEZEY commented HB 368 deals with a "gray area"                        
  mitigated by a number of circumstances.  The five and a half                 
  month reapplication period is a reasonable time frame.                       
  Hearing no further comments, CHAIR VEZEY recognized the                      
  motion by REPRESENTATIVE KOTT.  The committee secretary                      
  called the roll and HB 368 passed House State Affairs                        
  Committee with a unanimous "do pass" recommendation.                         

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